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Voter Turnout Expected to Decide Election

Aired October 25, 2000 - 11:23 a.m. ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: Let's talk more politics about the tight presidential race.

Rick Stengel with time.com, live in New York.

Welcome back, Rick, nice to see you again.

RICK STENGEL, TIME.COM: Hi, Bill; nice to be here.

HEMMER: A pleasure.

I guess the biggest indicator: Bush is in Bush country, Gore is in Gore country; kind of an indication of how tight things are?

STENGEL: Yes, I don't think it looks great for Al Gore to be in Tennessee and I don't think it looks great for Bush to be in Florida. They'd rather be in swing states where they should be piling on these last couple of weeks.

But it is evidence, as you say, Bill, that it's pretty darn close.

HEMMER: If you saw "The New York Times" this morning, you saw on the front page concerns about Ralph Nader sucking too many votes away from Al Gore and Joseph Lieberman, possibly 5 percent depending on the polling.

How big of a concern do you think that is on the Democratic side, Rick?

STENGEL: Well, they're not happy about it, that's for sure.

It doesn't matter in states like New York, really, or probably California. It matters in states that are really close, like Minnesota, Wisconsin -- states that the Democrats feel like, they should be in our column. So they're afraid that Nader will tip it the other way.

And, look -- Nader's been going along saying look, a vote for me is not a vote for George Bush. Well, that's wrong. A vote for him is a vote for George Bush.

HEMMER: And on the flip side there's a report from the Rand Group, I'm sure you saw, it was the talk of the morning -- that says the people in Texas and the Bush camp have been interpreting the education numbers in their state incorrectly; this after the same group came out in July and commended Texas for achievement when it comes to education.

Does this argument, 13 days away, have resonance with voters, do you believe?

STENGEL: Yes, I think so.

I mean, Gore people have been trying to besmirch Texas and say, we don't want a country that looks like Texas. But it's also one of those things where politicians are talking about rate of increase and rate of decline -- the fact that a Republican is talking about education at all is probably a pretty good thing, and that's evidence that he'll do something about it if elected.

HEMMER: All right, quick one before we wrap it up right here: I have made the point on this broadcast many times that I believe voter turnout will decide, indeed, what happened in this election -- whether it's the Democrats who vote or the Republicans.

Right now, who's the motivated base in your estimation?

STENGEL: Well, I think they're both kind of not motivated. I think the American public are not really paying that much attention; I think, you know, one of the reasons that people are saying that Bill Clinton should get out there is to motivate the Democratic base, which seems like they're just sitting back and doing nothing.

So that's a good prediction, Bill.

HEMMER: All right; Rick Stengel, time.com. Come on back, all right?

STENGEL: Will do.

HEMMER: Thirteen days and counting.

Good deal, thank you sir.

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